This may feel like it’s coming a little late…but I was wondering how everyone felt about Pride. Historically, Pride marches began as a celebration of the day we fought back—the first pride march was held in New York City on the anniversary of the Stonewall Rebellion— and it was more of a political action than a holiday.
For some, Pride is a chance to celebrate how far we’ve come in the past few decades and for others it feels a lot like we’re popping the cork a bit too soon. This is a discussion that can be heard from Equal Grounds to Amsterdam, seen in the documentary "The Politics of Pride" and read about in the latest issue of the annual InterPride magazine— but I thought it was time to get some feedback from you guys, so tell me what you think and answer the poll.
Not sure what pride means . Gay relations mostly are unprotected anal sex fueled by lust and alcohol or drugs . Broken psyches , addiction , rampant diseases . Physical abuse , enteric sicknesses , incarceration . Is pride just an excuse to blatantly ignore self loathing and addiction ? What is there to be proud about liking to be ^&*%$# in the ass and having AIDS plus mental illness and addiction ?
The gay lifestyle promoted my popular culture is making people sick , destroying families , normalizing the spread of AIDS .
I have lived with my partner for over 20 years we both have AIDS .
Same sex relationships are OK , just use traditional family values to make it last .
Monogamy , honesty , cooperation , maturity , volunteerism for community, make these kind of relationships work .
Cruising , serial multiple partners , party bar scene , circuit parties , massive amounts of repetitive unprotected anal sex , drugs , alcohol is just lonely people looking for an high to feel loved or self medicating bad emotions from past abuse , sexual , psychic , physical , emotional . All the are gonna get is anal goneria syphilis , throat cancer ( HPV ) AIDS ( Drug resistant ) , DEATH .
Thats a lot to be proud of isn't it ?
A) Xandor i dont think i have ever come across anyone who was quite so ashamed of who they are. I think you need to work on that. i also think you're probably projecting a lot of your own problems on the rest of the queer world.
B) I would never equate "gay relations" (not that i would ever refer to it like that--you make us sound like noting more than a niche market) WITH ANY OF THE THINGS YOU EQUATE IT WITH.
C) I think i have a lot to be proud of. Queer america has spent centuries hiding, and being made ashamed of who they are. well i refuse to hide and i refuse to be ashamed.
Pride is more than go-go dancers and Absolut vodka, Its about the absence of shame. we have come a tremendous distance in the past 40 years, we went from a time when i could be declared mentally ill for saying "i am gay" to a time when i can go and get married and have that GAY marriage recognized by new york state.
I am by no means saying we're done, i think we have A LOT more to fight for and i plan to fight until the day we have full equality, but what i am say is that we have earned a day where we can say "look at how far we've come mutha fukuh! I'm here, I'm queer, and I'm God Damned proud of it!"
In relation to your posting. Pride is a characteristic of those who have accomplished aspects of their lives that mean something. Pride doesn't mean being "queer" in the literal sense of the meaning. When I say AIDS in relationship to same-sex relationships; one must wonder what pride is when one may cheat on another and possibly be putting others at risk because of their activity.
In regards to your aspect for not equating (B) it is exactly what I have seen over the last 20 years. Men hunting down men for that perfect one night stand which can end up being diasterous for both parties and others they have have had a fling with. Com'n let's be honest.."When was the last time you had a date and asked the person if they were HIV Positive? Of course they will lie to you if they don't want you to know.
As you have stated your opinion I will stick by mine.
xandor - you have some pretty twisted ideas about sex and sexual orientation... many of which are rooted in some pretty dangerous and irresponsible lies about queer people.
resilience and courage to be who you are in the face of the heinous homophobia, transphobia, heterosexism, sexism & racism.... all of the oppressive forces that exist in this country and in this world... is not only an accomplishment but certainly something to be proud of.
By the way , I am a woman . I am a heterosexual !
I find your hetrophobia repulsive .
The gay life style alcoholism , drug abuse and disease are behavior based results of a life style that puts personal selfish hedonistic pleasure before " outcomes based decision making " .
Don't you use SBC Stage-Based Behavioral Counseling for STD/HIV Prevention ?
How can you be proud about a culture that has a by-product , illnesses as a result of actions based upon the traditions and beliefs of that culture ?
If you see what other people are doing , and you see that it is making people sick , why do you want to be sick as well ?
lets unhook the sex issue from the relationships issue. Gay people can have healthy relationships by the adaptation of healthy living lifestyles of successful hetro couples.
I became infected by being stuck by a needle when I visited Golden Gate Park in San Francisco. I was infected and didn't know it and infected my husband . When we both got sick we then figured out what happened, that was in 1988.
San Franciso . Some one was using drugs , left a needle , I was stuck . Was that person gay that used the drugs ? I don't know ... Did that person have AIDS ?
Obviously . because i have it form that person's irresponsibility , its addiction, its disease , its bloody AIDS infected NEEDLE.
Was i infected by any of my personal sexual risk ?
No I don't have any ! Successfully faithful marriage to the same man since 1968 !
What is a Woman supposed to feel about the gay Lifestyle now ?
Simply , AIDS is a fact . It is spread by MSM contact , used needles , and bodily fluids. it is a behavior based transmission of modality.
People have to infect other people for the disease to spread .
Intentionally or unintentionally , the gay Lifestyle does kill.
hetrophobia is just as hateful as homophobia.
Xandor (& all our readers)----
I wanted to post a reply to this discussion here in the comments section---but it was too long to be posted as a comment. I have created my response as a follow-up blog here on the site. I certainly invite you over to have a look by clicking here: http://everybodysgood.com/blogs/erik/202/response-xandor/
Erik